30 June 2025

❄️Systems Thinking: On Idealization (Quotes)

"It is difficult, however, to learn all these things from situations such as occur in everyday life. What we need is a series of abstract and quite impersonal situations to argue about in which one side is surely right and the other surely wrong. The best source of such situations for our purposes is geometry. Consequently we shall study geometric situations in order to get practice in straight thinking and logical argument, and in order to see how it is possible to arrange all the ideas associated with a given subject in a coherent, logical system that is free from contradictions. That is, we shall regard the proof of each proposition of geometry as an example of correct method in argumentation, and shall come to regard geometry as our ideal of an abstract logical system. Later, when we have acquired some skill in abstract reasoning, we shall try to see how much of this skill we can apply to problems from real life." (George D Birkhoff & Ralph Beately, "Basic Geometry", 1940)

"A material model is the representation of a complex system by a system which is assumed simpler and which is also assumed to have some properties similar to those selected for study in the original complex system. A formal model is a symbolic assertion in logical terms of an idealised relatively simple situation sharing the structural properties of the original factual system." (Arturo Rosenblueth & Norbert Wiener, "The Role of Models in Science", Philosophy of Science Vol. 12 (4), 1945)

"In fact, it is empirically ascertainable that every event is actually produced by a number of factors, or is at least accompanied by numerous other events that are somehow connected with it, so that the singling out involved in the picture of the causal chain is an extreme abstraction. Just as ideal objects cannot be isolated from their proper context, material existents exhibit multiple interconnections; therefore the universe is not a heap of things but a system of interacting systems." (Mario Bunge, "Causality: The place of the casual principles in modern science", 1959)

"There is a logic of language and a logic of mathematics. The former is supple and lifelike, it follows our experience. The latter is abstract and rigid, more ideal. The latter is perfectly necessary, perfectly reliable: the former is only sometimes reliable and hardly ever systematic. But the logic of mathematics achieves necessity at the expense of living truth, it is less real than the other, although more certain. It achieves certainty by a flight from the concrete into abstraction." (Thomas Merton, "The Secular Journal of Thomas Merton", 1959)

"[…] if a system is sufficiently complicated, the time it takes to return near a state already visited is huge (think of the hundred fleas on the checkerboard). Therefore if you look at the system for a moderate amount of time, eternal return is irrelevant, and you had better choose another idealization." (David Ruelle, "Chance and Chaos", 1991)

"[…] it does not seem helpful just to say that all models are wrong. The very word model implies simplification and idealization. The idea that complex physical, biological or sociological systems can be exactly described by a few formulae is patently absurd. The construction of idealized representations that capture important stable aspects of such systems is, however, a vital part of general scientific analysis and statistical models, especially substantive ones, do not seem essentially different from other kinds of model." (Sir David Cox, "Comment on ‘Model uncertainty, data mining and statistical inference’", Journal of the Royal Statistical Society, Series A 158, 1995)

"Formulation of a mathematical model is the first step in the process of analyzing the behaviour of any real system. However, to produce a useful model, one must first adopt a set of simplifying assumptions which have to be relevant in relation to the physical features of the system to be modelled and to the specific information one is interested in. Thus, the aim of modelling is to produce an idealized description of reality, which is both expressible in a tractable mathematical form and sufficiently close to reality as far as the physical mechanisms of interest are concerned." (Francois Axisa, "Discrete Systems" Vol. I, 2001)

"A first important remark is that nature gives us mathematical hints. […] A second important remark is that mathematical physics deals with idealized systems. […] The third important remark is that nature may hint at a theorem but does not state clearly under which conditions is true." (David Ruelle, "The Mathematician's Brain", 2007)

"Cellular automata (CA) are idealizations of physical systems in which both space and time are assumed to be discrete and each of the interacting units can have only a finite number of discrete states." (Andreas Schadschneider et al, "Vehicular Traffic II: The Nagel–Schreckenberg Model", 2011)

"Abstract formulations of simply stated concrete ideas are often the result of efforts to create idealized models of complex systems. The models are 'idealized' in the sense that they retain only the most fundamental properties of the original systems. The vocabulary is chosen to be as inclusive as possible so that research into the model reveals facts about a wide variety of similar systems. Unfortunately, it is often the case that over time the connection between a model and the systems on which it was based is lost, and the interested reader is faced with something that looks as if it were created to be deliberately complicated - deliberately confusing - but the original intention was just the opposite. Often, the model was devised to be simpler and more transparent than any of the systems on which it was based." (John Tabak, "Beyond Geometry: A new mathematics of space and form", 2011)

"Stated loosely, models are simplified, idealized and approximate representations of the structure, mechanism and behavior of real-world systems. From the standpoint of set-theoretic model theory, a mathematical model of a target system is specified by a nonempty set - called the model’s domain, endowed with some operations and relations, delineated by suitable axioms and intended empirical interpretation." (Zoltan Domotor, "Mathematical Models in Philosophy of Science" [Mathematics of Complexity and Dynamical Systems, 2012])

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